Elisabeth Borne wants to move forward on pension reform

"We want to move forward, but we are also in a process of consultation, listening, finding a way. We need to have these discussions with the employers' organizations and trade unions, and with Parliament," said the First minister on France Inter, the day after a government seminar at the end of which this reform was not mentioned.

"It remains a very important issue" and "the discussions, they will begin after the National Council for Refoundation", underlined Ms. Borne.

"If we want to finance a protective social model, we must have resources and we cannot deprive ourselves of part of our working capacity to create wealth. It is also important to be able to finance the ecological transition tomorrow", argued the Prime Minister.

The annual report of the Pensions Orientation Council, which will specify in particular the extent of the deficits of the pension system in the short and medium term, must be published on September 15.

"In the wake" of the CNR, supposed to bring together parties, associations, employers and unions on the reforms to come, "we are going to have a program of discussions, first on unemployment insurance, with employers' organizations and trade unions, but it We also have to be able to talk about this subject, which is a complex subject”, detailed the Prime Minister.

Ms. Borne wants to discuss in particular "how the share of seniors who are at work can increase" and "how we can gradually work a little longer". She acknowledged that the subject was "complex", depending on "the job you do".

The Prime Minister did not mention this reform in the government's projects on Wednesday after the government seminar.

But it is "not abandoned" and its "gradual deployment" will be carried out "during the year 2023", said government spokesman Olivier Véran, judging "fundamental to consult" upstream. "We want to reform work as a whole, including the question of pensions," he said.